What FEMA should have done

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i cant see....

i cant see....

That's funny ...

That's funny MNolen!

Actually, go one step further and call that the housing community of the future in New Orleans.

conana, they are building ...

conana, they are building arcs, as in Noah's arc.....
Okay, jokes not funny anymore.
I don't know how to make the pic bigger.

I liked it Mandy. It ...

I liked it Mandy. It almost makes too much sense. I mean they're putting in the same faulty pumps as were there before. The Army Corps of Engineers actually asked for bids. When they did so, they actually Xerox copied the specifications VERBATIM from the previous faulty pumps and required any bidder to meet those specs. Of course the only ones that could were the manufacturers of the faulty pumps. Plus, it's a faulty design. They don't work. And yet, that my friends is what we are going to see replacing the old faulty pumps in New Orleans, more faulty pumps. Where is the outrage? Where is crime enforcement when we really need them? This is not up to debate. Those are facts. Someone needs to go to prison for a very very long time for their corruption, it kills people.

I also want to know how to make pix. bigger here and I've asked before twice but no one replied. How about this? If you've posted a photo and it showed up larger can you tell us the specs? I need the physical size in inches or pixels or cm (any will do, just specify) and the pixels per inch or PPI. One without the other (PPI without physical size - commonly given that way) is totally worthless. I need both. Thanks in advance.

The picture is bigger in ...

The picture is bigger in the email, I just did a save as, and then posted it here. If anyone wants the pic but bigger, give me your email and I will send it.

I don't think, wait€¦ I ...

I don't think, wait€¦ I KNOW there is nothing ANYBODY could say to me that would lead me to believe they were building the exact same system in New Orleans that was there before. I don€™t know where you got that info TGIX, well I have an idea. Everything I€™ve seen on the Discovery channel and everywhere else about that project says the design and the system that will replace the old one is NOTHING like the one that failed during Katrina.

Sorry slappy, you're ...

Sorry slappy, you're wrong. Check it out - http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/30/pump-bid-for-new-orleans-may-have-be...

Do a search and you'll find quite credible sources like CBS and EVERY other major news network reporting the same thing!

So are you still big on enforcement for crimes that kill people or not?

How about W and Jeb? Should they not be prosecuted for this unbelievably hideous crime?

at first i thought it was ...

at first i thought it was just a noahs arc thing. i was like, "i dont get what that has to do with FEMA." it is a noahs arc thing, but i get it now. lol. im such a putz.

That link is obviously to ...

That link is obviously to a liberal website. ( they have their opinions and there is nothing wrong with that) But I would have to question the accuracy of the info on a site like that. So there are no surprises there. I have not heard the CBS etc report on this. Doesn't mean they didn't, I just didn't see it. CBS, ABC, and especially NBC are extremely liberal stations and their reporting makes that painfully obvious. Brian Williams is one of the biggest boo-hooer crybabies we've ever had as a new anchor. You follow a lot more of that stuff than I do so I would say you have more knowledge about it. However, I just can€™t believe for minute that ANYBODY would intentionally rebuild something, the same exact way, that failed so miserably before and cost many people their lives. It doesn€™t make sense that anybody would even make an accusation like that. Obviously IF they were stupid enough to do it though, I would have the backs of EVERY family member of ANY person that died as a result of using a system that has already proven to fail.

I'm trying to post many ...

I'm trying to post many others. There are MANY and the posts aren't showing up. Isn't that interesting?

You can NOT write this ...

You can NOT write this crime off as being some liberal conspiracy. Not when EVERY major news network reported on it.

Do a web search (very simple, but Do IT because this site is blocking me from posting my results). You input "Army Corps of Engineers" and "bid for pumps" and "specifications" and you will see that you are wrong. What I posted is the truth and Jeb Bush is implicated in greed for killing people as is Georgie W. They need to go to prison for murder if you ask me.

http://bob.wjla.com/headli ...

slappy, you are actually ...

slappy, you are actually calling ALL of these people liars? INCLUDING the government accountability office? You ARE a piece of work. Who was your indoctrinator when they brainwashed you with the rest of the ultra right wing repugs who spew that anything and everything they don't agree with was a LIBERALLLLL CONSPIRACYYYYY

do you have any idea how paranoid you sound?

"IF they were stupid ...

"IF they were stupid enough to do it though, I would have the backs of EVERY family member of ANY person that died as a result of using a system that has already proven to fail. " But that's just the problem slappy. You may have good intentions but NEWS FLASH - YOU CAN NOT BRING BACK THOSE JEB AND GEORGIE KILLED!

Here you go - EVEN the ...

Here you go - EVEN the ULTRA Right Wing Facist FOX NEWS reported the story
http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Mar15/0,4670,KatrinaFaultyPumps,00.html

Now who're ya gonna call? Ghostbusters? Gonna try and still say this is all a LIBERALLLLL CONSPIRACYYYYY?

LOL!

Of course I did detect a little "spin" in the Fox coverage but EVEN they reported on the crime by Jeb Bush's buddies. Don't think he's involved? What turnip truck did you just fall of of? LOL

Jeb and George didn't kill ...

Jeb and George didn't kill anybody. They killed themselves by not leaving as they were ordered to, on one of the thousands of busses supplied that remained unoccupied during the evacuation. Do you really believe George and Jeb have the power to steer a hurricane? You call ME paranoid ? Also, all those links are to the same article. So "all those people" are still in actuality one person. I just scanned it though, have not read it all. I will in a bit. Don't give up on me I really am interested in this.

I agree with slappy - they ...

I agree with slappy - they killed themselves. They were told to get out, but they didn't. You can't blame anyone except the people that stayed for them staying. I've seen enough hurricanes in my 25 years on this planet to know that if you live there, you're going to get hit by one, and if it's looking like a big one, get the fuck out. Common sense.

I dunno about the rebuilding part(too busy to read links right now). I'm a firm believer that they should just section the worst flooded parts off, and put in a theme park. Let mother nature take over where man had built, and we can atleast do a little monorail tour from it. Studies have shown that it was falling into the water anyways, why waste the time rebuilding only to have this happen again, and again. It's kinda like "Tornado Alley" only with hurricanes!! We should be learning something from all of it. Also, I don't know why ANYONE would want to live below sea level, but maybe that's just me.

I lived in Newport Beach ...

I lived in Newport Beach and a couple years ago there was an earthquake somewhere up north that triggered a tsunami warning. I have never seen so much traffic in my life. People were trying to get to a higher elevation. We had several friends come to our place. A girl even brought her cats in her luggage haha. So I too agree if you have to walk, ride a bike, hitchhike or rollerblade when you have a warning about a natural disaster GET THE HELL OUT ASAP. Who cares about your house you gave birth to all 12 of your kids in. Or how many Thanksgivings you have had in that dining room. You don't have to be smart to know if you don't leave knowing a catagory MILLION hurricane is a coming you have a chance at dying. I feel for those who lost their lives but it could have been avoided if they would have listened like the rest of them who lived.

That part of the south, ...

That part of the south, more so Louisanna and Mississippi are 2 of the most poverty stricken states in the continental US. There are more indigent people and more people on welfare in these 2 states than you would believe. So no money, no food, no way to get out. Not everyone had a car, or a bike, and seriously how far could walking get you? If every car was packed to the brim with people, pets, or personal items, who are you going to fit a person off the side of the road? I do agree that the people who had cars and what not should have left earlier, but the ones that had no means of transportation couldn't really do a hell of alot. What about the disabled? That nursing home that chose NOT to evacuate....what the hell?
Snowbunnie, if everything you owned was lost to a flood, and the only thing left that you had in the world was a piece of land, what would you do? Remember that you can't sell it, cause no one wants to buy it, so now what? The only thing you can do is rebuild, your not just going to walk away..
My dad and little brither went down to New Orleans last year for summer break and spent their vacation helping rebuild the 9th ward with habitat for humanity. Building houses right back where they were flooded before, you just have to hope for the best that another hurricane won't come in a few weeks/years and knock it right back down.
But I also believe that FEMA and the govt should have paid what was due to the people for their house. Next time you see dawn on here, ask her what her home was worth, and how much she actually got to rebuild, that is if she will tell you. And you know they set aside a few BILLION dollars for the "rebuild effort" and they still aren't paying out what they should. Wonder who has the rest of the money???

Thank you Mandy but we're ...

Thank you Mandy but we're talking to brick walls here. They will first deny it happened, then insult and try to discredit those who point out the crimes (even while claiming to be tough on crime) then they will try to discredit the sources who revealed the facts of the crimes saying it's a liberal conspiracy, then they will blame the victims... They're hopeless. They drank the Kool-Aid.

"They were told to get out" is a lie. The hurricane was known to be a catagory 5 and there was plenty of time to evacuate but they delayed that, sticking their heads in the sand. Then, when people were not provided transportation or evacuation routes or civil order to get them out, they did not help those who clung to their rooftops and to trees! THEN they refused to rescue them even as they huddled for days on the highways to nowhere and even turned them back from "white" towns because of their color. Then they denied them any housing or food assistance. THEN they allowed the insurance companies to get away with further destroying these people's lives by refusing claims that were legitimate (wind, not water caused most of the damage). And most have STILL not been compensated. Then they let cronies from Alaska, with a FAR higher bid, charge to house people by subcontracting out the local company that bid less because someone is making a KILLING in kickbacks. There are campaign donations and the brother of Georgie W and others with absolutely ZERO conscience.

The repugs are repugnant and must be impeached before they do it again. It is only a matter of time. They show zero remorse. Their greed is never satisified and they DO kill people just for money and power.

I like kool-aid. Some of ...

I like kool-aid. Some of them should be blamed, like the idiots who chose to wait it out. I was just trying to prove a point that you can't say everyone who stayed was an idiot..some just didn't have a way out! And the folks who stayed JUST TO LOOT, should have been shot, on site, UNLESS it was a food store, I can understand needing food, but a plasma tv??
I read somewhere that a company from Dallas/Ft. Worth that tows/crushes cars told the mayor they would clean up the streets and PAY the city to allow them to do it (cause they were getting money for the metal) and the mayor said no, so the cars just sat there. The city of N.O. could have made MILLIONS of dollars, but chose not to, I didn;t/don't understand.
I didn't know that there were unoccupied busses, but some still would need help to get to the busses.
Have yall ever seen when the leves broke directed by spike lee? Good, sad and will make you bawl, but good.
Dawn, i feel for you and what your family and friends went through...
and as your shirt said, I am glad you can swim too. :P

Looting is wrong and ...

Looting is wrong and looters should be shot when they're not taking food. That would include the cops that were caught on video looting in New Orleans - NO exceptions.

TGIX said "They will first ...

TGIX said "They will first deny it happened, " deny WHAT ? The hurricane. No, it happened.

TGIX said "then they will try to discredit the sources who revealed the facts of the crimes " What crimes ? Besides ONE person wrote that article. More then likely a democrat. Show me some proof son.

TGIX said - €œThey were told to get out€ is a lie" Thatrs funny because the CNN I was watching was telling people two days ahead of time to leave. "They had no way to get themselves out" Now there's a lie. There were more than enough FREE modes of transportation to get every single man woman and child out. And get them out a full 24 hours before the first drop of rain fell.

TGIX said "hey refused to rescue then" REFUSED ? There were thousands of stranded people and an handful of helicopters. Ya see TGIX in the REAL world we can't blink our eyes like Jeanie and have things be all rainbows and lollipops, like those in the fantastical democrat world can.

TGIX said "they DO kill people just for money and power." hahahahahaha!!!! You know TGIX they are doing wonderful things in mental institutions these days. Especially for the paranoid schizophrenics. You should really look into it so we don't find your kid dead and you hanging from the shower curtain next to a note you wrote about saving your family from the repugs. LOL !!!.

Your conspiracy theories are worthy of Hollywood acclaim.

You slappy have been ...

You slappy have been infected with the sadim touch. Bush is the carrier, like Typhoid Mary. sadim is Midas backwards. EVERYTHING Bush touches turns to rubbish, the opposite of the Midas touch. He BOTCHED the entire mess in Louisiana and Missouri. He even said "Brownie" the FEMA director did a great job. What a sick SICK joke that was. He has turned Afghanistan back into the world's (by FAR) #1 heroin producer and made such a mess of Iraq that there is no infrastructure, nothing but mayhem, anarchy, mass killings Daily. And he's made our own country so weak that 47 million have no health insurance and people are losing their homes left and right. Jobs are all going away except for the ones that he brings in illegals to take from us. There's no food safety either. But you go right on saying that you believe in CNN in one post while in others you call them communists who can't be believed. YOU really need a head check sir.

Where were the helicopters ...

Where were the helicopters and ALL of the new radios that we paid for to help in exactly this sort of catastrophe? Iraq.

Mismanagement of resources of the highest order. Too few people, little to no equipment, NO organization, and then they try to replace the defective pumps with PRECISELY the SAME ones to give Jeb Bush's old company the multi millions of dollars contract...

Those are crimes.

Bush isn't fit to run a boy scout troop.

well don't even get me ...

well don't even get me started cuz ya'll know what I went through!
well at least the corps of engineers admitted fault and we submitted our class action lawsuit but who knows when we'll see the money. Maybe when my kids are grown?

http://www.levees.org/news

I used to feel that way ...

I used to feel that way about the people who didn't leave when they should have. But slowly I found out that A LOT of people had NO WAY to get out. Old people, poor people, homeless people and the city provided NO WAY for them to get out!

blah blah blah blah TGIX. ...

blah blah blah blah TGIX. The majority of the problem with the federal governments response was shitty leadership at FEMA. However, this country HAD NEVER experienced anything like Katrina. Hurricane Andrew isn't even worth mentioning. Compared to Katrina it was a springtime rain shower. Do you really think Bush OR Clinton had the time each day to go check in at every federal agency to see how they were doing. The answer to that is NO. A presidents cabinet is responsible to feeding the prez, whoever it may be, information about this and that. His decisions are made based on the info he is provided. Regardless of what your playmates over in the democratic party tell you, Bush never went to Iraq to inspect it on his own. oooo gotta go take a call I'll be back in a bit.

Ed, what does the people ...

Ed, what does the people loosign their houses have to do with bush? Not a complaint, or a gripe, just a genuine question. I can't make a connection, I just figureed people were loosing their houses because they got in over their heads. The way the housing market down here is: zero move in and zero closing costs. Then they whop you upside the head with a big house payment, then when you put the house up for sell, there are no buyers, because they kept building more houses. Why would someone want a house that is 2-3 years old, when they can get a new one for the same price on the same street?
But maybe I am looking at it through a different point.....

Mandy, look up a little ...

Mandy, look up a little about deregulation and the republicans' hand in that. It's pretty simple but I can't explain it all here. I have a flood of my own and carpet and painting and plumbing contractors to deal with. Everyone knows the republicans were for the deregulation of banking and loans. There are consequences to those actions.

slappy, you're getting ...

slappy, you're getting more intelligent I see with all that "blah blah blah blah" talk. I'm glad you're starting to see things more clearly now.

yada yada yada . lol

yada yada yada . lol

Somehow I missed on of ...

Somehow I missed on of your above posts TGIX. Well if FOX news said it happened than I can believe it I should apologize for disagreeing with you. But since I can't give you a hug too, what's the point.

Actually Mandy, if you ...

Actually Mandy, if you would have read the very end of my post you would see where I said "I don€™t know why ANYONE would want to live below sea level, but maybe that€™s just me."

Yeah, lets go build an entire city under the level of the ocean... I wonder what Einstein would have said about that.

As for the ones that as you say CHOSE not to evacuate - what the hell did they expect? They can't blame anyone but themselves.

And my boyfriends uncle works for an insurance company and he was down there taking photos of where the houses used to be - I know what the deal is, trust me. I'm not saying any more, because my source is good, and my info shouldn't be shared. (For the sake of the ones that HAD insurance). They don't have to sell, they just have to find new land, trust me.

Hey AK let's go build a ...

Hey AK let's go build a city on the side of Mt. St. Helens, what do ya say. I bet there's plenty of people that want the views.

HAHAHAHA, why not pick one ...

HAHAHAHA, why not pick one up here like Augustine, it goes off every two to three years, plus it's an island, we could make bank off people!

Now see what you started ...

Now see what you started Mandy? Everyone's going to live on volcanos and it's all YOUR fault!

Not HER fault, THEIR fault ...

Not HER fault, THEIR fault for buying land on our volcano island!

Ah, so it's your volcano ...

Ah, so it's your volcano island. Sorry Mandy, you only started the thread. It's all AKsnowbunnie's fault (and whoever else owns that blasted island).

Ooooh, can you send a sales brochure to my ex? She was talking about moving far away recently. This would be perfect for her. I'll even take back what I said about it being your fault too. And maybe you can split the commission with the realtor.

I got a friend that is a ...

I got a friend that is a relator, all the cash is going in our pockets. Slappy and I are going to be rich after this one. Maybe I should go plant some dynamite in the volcano to ensure that it goes off soon!

I'LL TELL YOU WHY I LIVE ...

I'LL TELL YOU WHY I LIVE HERE!

It's where I was born, went to school, grew up, met my husb, got married, my life is here, this is all I know. that's not to say that I wouldn't move, but it's just where I've been all my life and learned to live with weather issues, What happened to us was not a weather issue it was a LEVEE ISSUE! Had the levees WORKED, we wouldn't have flooded, aside from the hurricane coming this way, we would have still had houses!

Why do people live in CA with earthquakes or the midwest with tornadoes, the same reason anybody lives anywhere, IT'S YOUR HOME!

Hey Walter, where does ...

Hey Walter, where does your friend live and what business do they have?
I wonder if I know them?

And I well know about the ROAD BLOCK HOME PROGRAM, oh, I mean the road home program, been waiting 7 months and still counting, for my money, my house isn't done yet. Mississippi didn't have ANY of these problems we are having! They got PAID MONTHS AGO!! I HATE LOUISIANA POLITICS!!
They are holding on to the money as long as possible to get the interest!!
I HATE the politicians!! Public Schools sucks! They need to rethink their priorities!

they are all greedy and ...

they are all greedy and THAT'S the reason we didn't have Disneyworld here!!
Years ago they originally wanted to put it here, somewhere, because of all the land BUT these greedy MF'S wanted too much MONEY from Disney!!!

Disasters can happen ...

Disasters can happen anywhere. I had a tornado come through my back yard just feet from my house on Mother's day a few years ago. It was just a little F1 but it was hellish. The sky was all blue and then turned BLACK instantly. Then, a few moments after the fury it was all blue again and all the kids came out from the neighborhood to see the downed trees. Freaky. This is MD, not supposed to be part of tornado alley, at least now when I was a kid, not I hear it is considered to be because of shifting weather patterns. We NEVER had any tornadoes when I was young. Now it's a regular thing. We just had a couple in Garrett County about a week ago. We've had towns nearly wiped out in southern MD, La Plata area.

It's not what happens but how you prepare and how you deal with the aftermath. The devastation in Louisiana and Missouri were predicted. It was only a matter of time. The way they were prepared for was abysmal. The way the carnage was dealt with by Bush's "Brownie" and what was left of the National Guard that he decimated was nothing less than a crime.

Dawndiva, I live in CA ...

Dawndiva,

I live in CA and I know a big earthquake is coming, but like you said, my entire life is here, family, friends, job. I just enjoy each day, knowing the big one could hit at any time.